IDIOTS ON MESSAGE BOARDS and APW BOOT CAMP TRAINING SCHOOL
Is it me or is this blonde daydreaming about my total package? Are young women users? When they want to be with an older successful wrestling personality like myself, I almost feel like I am being used.IDIOTS ON MESSAGE BOARDSWhat is wrong with the idiots that post on most California message boards?? Most posters on message boards think they are smart to the wrestling business but they are not.
They have been trained by the Internet and/or a newsletter. They never were trained by someone in the wrestling business - someone that is old-school. They don't have the respect of those in the industry because for the most part, they have never earned that respect. All they do is post. They have never accomplished anything in the wrestling business to earn that respect. They have never paid dues. They have never learned to be respectful or humble. They are not smart to the wrestling business they are just smart and that is just because of how pro wrestling evolved over the years and everyone is smart. My next door neighbor is smart and he doesn't even follow pro wrestling or message boards.
I remember my first Head Trainer, Ric Thompson almost got fired by San Francisco promoter, Roy Shire, for smartening me up. Ric told Shire, "hell, I didn't smarten that kid up, he was already smart, he is smartening me up". That is because the old-school way was to not smarten someone up until the very last possible moment. If you smartened someone up in the business, they would break your legs and throw you in a river. I was fortunate to be smart to the business. There were very few like myself and I treasured that and kept the kayfabe. Ric Thompson wasn't even sure if the business was a work or shoot when he had his first pro match versus Arizona wrestler/promoter Kurt Von Steiger who happened to be Billy Anderson's foster father or step father and Billy Anderson can attest to that. I am sure you read in the Ric Flair book how he trained Bobby Eaton.
GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHTPeople always get their facts wrong on message boards. They are very good at spinning and hating. I remember people claiming that we claimed to train the Wild Samoans Afa and Sika when we never claimed that. Rocky Johnson had been asked by Peter Maivia to train Afa and Sika and he in turn passed the buck to Ric Thompson. Hell, Ric had barely been trained himself. So he tried to break them in Los Angeles with Gino Garibaldi who happened to be the booker to Mike LaBelle at the time. Garibaldi said Afa was too small. Credit Afa and Sika for sticking together as a team and pursuing their goals. Thompson told them he would take them to Arizona and get them some matches with Kurt and he did and that is how they got their start. The rest is history and they became a very famous tag-team in WWF later on after much success in many regionals. Posters will twist and turn and then accuse us for taking credit in training the Samoans.
The Internet is a brutal world of marks who have never been properly smartened up.
Most of the message board posters couldn't give you the wrestling terms in the wrestling business and this is after they have been published by many a newsletter with a few left off. You think these guys ever paid their dues or accomplished anything in pro wrestling to get the respect of anyone in the industry? Why do you think big-name wrestlers hate the newsletter writers and the Internet?
Posters wish they could do what pro wrestlers do but they don't have the ability, the balls , brains or the body.
They are computer nerds or self-proclaimed wrestlers. The definition of pro wrestler is very different today than it was in the regional days. Hell, just go to K-Mart and pick up something that looks like wrestling gear and give yourself some ring name before you even know how to execute a fundamental and you are a pro wrestler. I am sure one of these so-called wrestling promoters who can't spell wrestling will book you .
NOT ANYBODY SHOULD BE ABLE TO BE A PRO WRESTLERTo be a pro wrestler you had to go through hoops. You were screened very carefully before being allowed to be part of the business. Not everyone got in. Few got in. Today, everyone is a pro wrestler because there are too many promoters and promotions (no different than backyard) that will suit you up and put you in their battle royal to work you for money or save money and not have to pay a real pro wrestler. Why do you think the percentage of wrestlers that make it to the big-time is so low in comparison to the wrestlers in the regional days who could get to the top regions?? The top regions were San Francisco, Florida, Georgia, New York and Texas. Of course, later on, North Carolina became the #2 region after Flair and Steamboat popped the territory around 1976.
We used to demand a certain amount of money for our pro wrestler graduates until everyone began to make a fuss and they drove the prices of Indy wrestlers down. Thompson and I always are amused by how Ric made $60 for an opening bout at the San Jose Civic in 1974 and today in 2007 the main eventers can't get $60 for the main event but yet you think you are pro wrestlers, LOL. It was the promoters that refused to pay what an Indy wrestler was worth that drove the price down of what Indy wrestlers get paid. Besides, there is such a big difference between house shows today and house shows in the 70's that had television backing.
THERE IS NO MONEY IN INDY WRESTLING!
INDY WRESTLERS WHO THINK THEY ARE STARS - GET A GRIPTherefore, all the whining pro wrestlers that complain about pay and how they are used, need to pack their gear and go home and join a bowling league. You all act like you have it made. This is the Indies. You have not made it yet! This is the minor leagues. You are wrestling in what I wish could be a minor league feeding system but it isn't even that because the major promotions ignore all the Indies and schools because for the most part there is nothing but garbage at that level. Don't get me wrong, I don't want to stereotype because there is still some talent at the Indy level but very little and most don't understand pro wrestling the way it should be understood because they weren't taught properly and by old-school trainers. I really have no clue to what goes on in other areas of the country but I feel like I am an expert in California wrestling and I know what I see and what I hear and it is just garbage for the most part. You are lucky someone deemed you a pro wrestler to begin with. Most of you I wouldn't give the time of day to. Gabe and Jason did a great job with booking in the post undermining (PWI) era but because we had to start from scratch they were forced to book many guys I would have never given the time of day to. They made it work and my hats off to them. You so-called wrestlers are lucky to even get a booking considering most of you don't have gear and most of you don't understand the importance of fundamentals or psychology in a match. I bitch about the APW guys all the time and I don't even know how good APW has it but at the same time, APW talent is spoiled and they don't even know how good they have it. They normally depend on someone in APW to take them by the hand. That is why I appreciate Kafu so much. He gets it done. Heck, even Modest used to have Morgan do all his marketing and getting him booked.
I laugh when I see today's young wrestler making gestures in the air with their hands and going over in their mind, their choreographed match. It is sad but WWE went to choreographing wrestling matches because none of the young trained talent was trained properly and they couldn't work a match if their lives depended on it. Of course that is their fault.
Vince McMahon is a genius in marketing and has revenue streams from every area you can think of but he continues to neglect talent development but then bitches about the talent he has.
Those same wrestlers are posting on message boards and they have a following of IDIOTS that have no clue
they are not smart to the wrestling business. They think they are smart! That is why I personally would never book most of you. Every now and then you find an acorn in a field that understands training. We decide to use them and people then accuse us of taking credit for training them. We NEVER TRAINED Oliver John or MPT but they understand pro wrestling, fundamentals and psychology and they come to us to help them further their career. Doesn't sound like they are idiots to me. Oliver was trained by Paul DeMarco, a legend. He didn't learn pro wrestling and get smartened up to it by the Internet. He doesn't have backyard wrestling gear. He is humble and he is respectful. Same goes for MPT. Same goes for Scotty Aboot. I never claimed that APW has the best training we have ever had but we are hands-down the best training available in California and probably one of the top 3 in the U.S. if not the best and definitely the best Indy promotion to be wrestling for - even in the famous garage. Do you realize how many have earned a living that used the garage to elevate their careers?
BEST PRO WRESTLING TRAINING SCHOOLWhen Ric Thompson was our Head Instructor, Jim Gorman and Michael Modest our assistant instructors and I oversaw the training at ringside and added my two cents because I am detail orientated, we had our best training. It was a 9.4 on a 1 to 10 scale. Dana Lee and Vennis DeMarco are very good at training the Beginners and Semi-Pros today. Are they the best APW has ver had? Of course not but they are very good and are around a 7.8 on a 1 to 10 scale and heads and shoulders above all other training in California which I would rank at about a 1.3 on a 1 to 10 scale. Yes, I am giving them the benefit of the doubt because it is Easter. I really believe the training being done today in California is in the negative numbers.
As bad as so-cal training sucks they are better than almost all of the training taking place in Northern California.
Besides APW, I only support Zack and PCW as far as training is concerned and don't tell me I have seen his training and not yours. I have seen most of the trainers and if I haven't, I have seen what they have produced and I rest my case. I will say this, as far as the PRO CAMP is concerned, I can't remember us ever having better training. I am trying to sit here and compare to the names named above but even Thompson, Gorman, Modest and myself may not compare to what takes place in the Pro Camp on show days today with Oliver John, MPT, JJ Perez and myself. Does that mean we trained them? We trained JJ?
Remember, it takes good training and being a student of the game and the understanding of fundamentals and ring psychology to make a real pro wrestler and succeed in the pro wrestling business.
DALIP SINGHMichael Modest was supposed to train Dalip Singh but he took his share of the training fees and rarely trained Dalip. Heck, Donovan barely trained Dalip. It was mostly Vinny Massarro. Dalip has Giants syndrome and is uncoordinated. Could have anyone done a good job training Dalip? Probably not. I believe the Internet and Meltzer can sometimes be a little hard on Dalip. There was only one Andre the Giant. Andre was an athlete and could actually throw a drop-kick. When Vince Sr. took over his contract, (yes he booked him out for a percentage - how dare me try to steal the concept from Vince Sr.) they toned down Andre and used him the way he should have been. The bookers have failed to use Dalip or Big Show for that matter the way a Giant should have been used. But, even had they used them properly, people need to understand there was only one Andre the Giant and there will probably never be another. Did Dalip come to the right place when he came to APW? I would say so. As a rookie in 2001, he earned almost $13k a week in Japan. He was in the movie Longest Yard for a bit role. Want to guess what he made for that? Want to guess what he makes in WWE? Want to admit he came to right place to get his training? The Modest and Morgan story has been told before. Morgan was being paid to set up the Noah visit to the school. Sure they gave a heck of a performance because they were trained correctly. I helped put those spars together with them. Does APW take full credit for the success of the wrestlers in King of Indies. Of course not. Those guys all had talent and I had the talent to discover they were talented and bring them under one roof for two nights. Did we help put them on the radar. You damn right we did. Did we retrain Crash Holly? We sure did. Did JR Benson give some footage to Jim Cornette? He sure did. Good thing JR also was in APW. Do you idiots get the point I am trying to make yet?
Good things happen to wrestlers who were trained at APW or trained elsewhere and decided to come to APW.
We have overcome so many obstacles in our 16 years it amazes me we are still around but we preservered because we are tough and we are old-school and we understand the business and what it takes and I have always surrounded myself with good people. Bash Deadrich and Gabe all you want, you all wish you could be them.
JASON DEADRICHThe things Jason has done are incredible. He created ClickWrestle which was way ahead of their time and only now are people beginning to catch up to that technology. Jason developed Black Pants Production which I challenge anyone to match in terms of show production and post editing production at our level. Everyone bitches about Cheerleader Melissa and ChickFight. The truth is Melissa is one of the top 5 females in the world, of those I have seen in the ring. The truth is ChickFight is an outstanding product and all the girls should thank Deadrich for starting the product. After ChickFight came Shimmer and they need to thank Dave for starting Shimmer. Between the two and many others following suit, womens wrestling is back and there is more talent in the women's scene than ever before. Better than anything you'll find in WWE now that Trish Stratus is gone. Sure most of them don't have huge plastic breasts but they are tough and they can wrestle and are athletic and they can entertain and they are booked almost every weekend.
GABE RAMIREZKnock Gabe all you want but the success of many of the graduates is directly attributed to what he does. He has booked guys for exposure on other promotions. He has gotten guys to Mexico, Japan etc... He has booked TNA guys on Bakersfield shows and it is beginning to pay off not only in terms of attendance in Bakersfield but exposure for our wrestlers. I said it earlier, the guy understands what it takes to make it in the business. I'd like to think he was well trained but it also helps he isn't an idiot like most of you. He understands what good gear is supposed to look like and what a package is supposed to look like and it always amazes me that even though guys like him, myself and Deadrich have rarely been in major promotions locker rooms and never wrestled ourselves that we all have a better understanding of what it takes to succeed in the wrestling business. I challenge anyone to give their students and wrestlers the exposure APW gives them with nationally distributed DVD's, www.clickwrestle.com etc... I challenge anyone to produce a better looking and more complete portfolio than www.onestopwrestleshop.com does. Our guys know how to act in a locker room and agents and other wrestlers can tell they were trained and groomed properly.
TRAINING FEESOh yeah... about the $6,000 training fee. First off, there are discounts that can take your fee to almost half that price. Take advantage of the discounts and most can sign up for $4,000. We have payment plans that are affordable. We don't charge interest! We don't do credit checks and if we did, most guys wouldn't get into the training school. Sure there will be IDIOTS that don't pay their bill but that is the nature of the beast. Those people can't make credit moves for 7 years after we report them to the credit bureau or attach their wages or whatever we have done in the past to collect bad debts. The training fee is a lifetime training fee other than gym dues that must be paid once you make your pro debut. We train for 2 years plus. I talked to a kid on the phone yesterday that said he was trained in Antioch for 2 months and given a pro match and the trainer never trained him, he was trained by other students. Blue Mountain what? Like a disease, training schools are passed down to a different generation. You got a guy in Concord who does a horrible job of training and the guy he trains never makes it in the business so he opens a school and does some training and the wrestlers just get worse and worse and worse over time. It is the domino effect. Nobody even gives the prospective student as much as APW Boot Camp does let alone a student. Some schools copy the formula and that is flattering. One school that was supposed to put us out of business but couldn't stay in business and somehow disappeared from the face of the earth copied everything they learned at APW. Again, flattering. Why change what isn't broken although, we are always tweaking our system. We incorporated things learned from Bryan Danielson because he learned from Shawn Michaels. We are incorporating things learned from Oliver John because he learned from Paul DeMarco.
LET'S GO HOMEI will admit, time rarely permits me to visit the boards but I am entertained by the IDIOTS. I was hoping for entertainment yesterday but the thread was so damn long, I just moved on to another website. Are these idiots breeding and multiplying? Try to take something from this blog and learn and quit hating just because you are a mark that was smartened up by the Internet doesn't mean you have to be jealous and hate on the best talent development sytem that exists in the U.S.